| Re: Is it Art? |
Subject: Re: Is it Art?
by Winterhawk on 2008/9/7 13:21:19
ok here is what I think of art.
When I was in Art school, one of my professors defined art. I pretty much go with his definition of it. First you have to take it down to the core of what it really is. Expression. Take away the externals, and additions such as skill level, tool sets, talent, and ability. Human have at their core two basic drives. one is sex and the other is to survive. So something done not to directly or indirectly satisfy one of these drive and only done to express something for the sake of expression is art.(there of course can be some overlap) if you do a picture to get laid, it can still be art. why do a picture. you could have gotten a girl on charm, wit, luck, money. but the person choose to create and express themselves. motivation of expression does not define expression. Pro-artists, create art even though they could have gotten a job doing manual labor.
You go to work, to get money, you want money to get food, shelter, and if you get enough it also makes you more attractive. So you can get both sex and survival from working. Here is a little story to illustrate.
Imagine taking a leak on a snow bank. If you just stand there and let nature do it's course. you are satisfying your need to survive, what goes in must come out. Not art. You just stood there and took a piss. But if you wrote your name, Drew a little stick figure with the stream. Bamm!!! Art!!! Why, because you didn't have to. You were expressing yourself. the tools used were your Johnson and piss in the snow, but it is still art.
Now should all art be appreciated and put on display, absolutely not. But just because the medium and quality are that of piss in some snow doesn't change the fact that it is art. it was created only for the purpose of expression, it didn't have to be done. It took effort and even a little imagination.
A lot of arguments that I have heard over the years, is that isn't art. usually is about quality and skill level. Art doesn't come in different levels it either is or isn't. quality, tools, and skill have nothing to do with it.
A simple drawing of a stick figure isn't less art then the statue of David. They are both art. They just have greatly different skill levels and mediums done in their creation.
Art is all around us, all day every day. from written words, to the design of your PC/MAC. We are the only animal on the planet that creates art. It really is the only thing that seperates us from other creatures of the world besides our intelligence. Thumbs...sorry nope, tool use....not even close, sex as enjoyment...nope, Art ..yes.
In our quest to define ourselves as both individuals and culture quite a few of us have the need to create. a drive that has no purpose and usually has no benefit to us either. I know I create simply because I have to. I think about images and projects. I have ideas for things, I know I will never have the time to make.
Manips, poser, daz studio, photoshop. it doesn't matter. It is art. The argument that you have to model the figure for it to be art, or create the texture for it to be art, isn't about art. it is about quality and skill level.
Mondrian is a good example of this. A lot of people say his stuff isn't art, I have heard it discussed 100s of times.
lets compare it to this
Both still art. Both still valid.
The main reson people don't call Mondrian's stuff art is because they don't like it. Personal taste doesn't change what it is. Just because I don't like my neighbor doesn't change the fact that he is a person. Yet people make the same argument. Just because Jim Lee's art looks better then Darth Pauls doesn't mean Darth's not an artist.
Just because a 3d artist doesn't model or a photomanipper doesn't take the photo. or a painter didn't grow the fruit and make the bowl, or a pencillers didn't make the pencil and paper. Doesn't mean they didn't create art. It means that they didn't make the model. didn't take the photo, didn't grow fruit or make a bowl, etc.
Skills, quality and personal taste often get brought up in these discussions, and really those are different discussions altogether.
I hope my rant made some sort of sense to those reading it.
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